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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin interviews Myles Katz, founder and executive director of Confluence Retreats. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-246-myles-katz/ They delve into the closure of Synthesis, a psilocybin retreat center in Amsterdam co-founded by Myles. From investment decisions to the pandemic’s impact, they discuss the challenges faced and lessons learned. Myles shares his vision for conscious capitalism, introducing Confluence Retreats, a nonprofit psychedelic retreat in Oregon. This conversation sheds light on the evolution of psychedelic businesses amidst external forces like financial markets and the COVID-19 pandemic. Myles's professional journey has spanned three continents. During this time, he has launched and led five VC/Impact-funded startups dedicated to technological innovation, social responsibility, and environmental sustainability. Specializing in early-stage business strategy, Myles has successfully

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes Chip Conley, founder of the Modern Elder Academy, to discuss reframing aging and building regenerative communities. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-245-chip-conley/?ref=250 Chip delves into the importance of aging with gratitude in this conversation and shares his journey of creating a midlife wisdom school. Chip also highlights the value of intergenerational collaboration and its impact during his time at Airbnb. He explores how indigenous wisdom influences the academy's approach and discusses how psychedelics can aid in navigating midlife transitions. Finally, Chip shares his vision for regenerative communities, and shares lessons on the ego and the soul that he gleaned from building a boutique hotel chain. Chip Conley: Chip Conley is on a midlife mission. After disrupting the hospitality industry twice, first as the founder of Joie de Vivre Hospitality, the second-largest opera

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Alexander Beiner for a deep dive into nuanced engagement in the culture wars. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-244-alexander-beiner/ Paul and Alexander examine the importance of sense-making and the role of psychedelics in navigating complex environments. Alexander draws from his interviews with thought leaders like John Vervaeke, Ian McGilchrist, and Nora Bateson, shedding light on the Four E's of cognitive science. He explores how psychedelics can enhance discernment and adaptability in the face of a rapidly changing world. Alexander also shares his experiences with extended state DMT and its impact on his understanding of reality. This conversation delves deeply into the realms of consciousness and reality, offering visionary insights into how psychedelic perspectives can inform and address the intricate challenges facing the world. Alexander Beiner is an author and journalist. H

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes physician Dr. Russell Kennedy, “The Anxiety MD,” to discuss healing the root cause of anxiety, and the role that psychedelics can play. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-243-russell-kennedy-md/ Dr. Kennedy shares his personal journey of healing anxiety stemming from his own childhood adversity. He discusses the connection between the mind and body, the impact of psychedelics on anxiety, and transcending the limiting self-beliefs that physiological states of anxiety can produce. Dr. Kennedy also provides practical practices to connect with the self and overcome anxiety. Offering a neuroscientific overview of anxiety, he emphasizes the importance of changing the alarm sensation in the body to break protective behavioral patterns that may stem from childhood. Additionally, Dr. Kennedy shares his experience with stand-up comedy and its impact on his life. He concludes by discussing his

In this episode, Jennifer Tessler, Jennifer Tessler, Psychotherapist & Founder of Alalaho, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss contemplative approaches to psychedelic healing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-242-jennifer-tessler/ Jennifer shares her journey of self-discovery through travel, meditation, and psychedelics. She discusses the integration of Dzogchen and psychedelics, and the benefits of psychedelics in supporting spiritual practices. Jennifer also talks about the founding of Alalaho Retreats and their focus on providing comprehensive retreat experiences for individuals interested in exploring psychedelics and deepening their spiritual practice. Jennifer explains the core practices in the experience retreat, which include meditation, somatic practices, journaling exercises, nature connection exercises, authentic relating, and ecstatic dance. She also emphasizes the importance of long-term integration and incorporating contemplative elements

Adrian Lozano joins host Joseph Anew on The Psychedelic Podcast to discuss psychedelic coaching, integration, and group microdosing. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-241-adrian-lozano/ In this rich conversation, Adrian shares his journey with psychedelics, from anxiety and depression to living from the heart. He emphasizes the importance of regulating the nervous system and overcoming social anxiety. Adrian also highlights the role of integration and self-regulation in the psychedelic experience. Together, Adrian and Joseph explore the benefits of microdosing and breathwork as tools for personal growth and transformation, and how to build trust with psychedelic medicines. Adrian shares how The Coaching Certification Program transformed his professional trajectory. He offers his perspective on the ever-evolving psychedelic field, highlighting the importance of ethics and community. Adrian also introduces his group microdose program, touching on the power

Renowned nutritionist Oz Garcia joins host Paul F. Austin to share his journey from artistry to expertise, diving into the transformative power of fasting for health and longevity. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-240-oz-garcia/ Oz shares insights on cultivating the right mindset and humility for a fulfilling life, drawing from personal experiences including ketamine therapy for PTSD and long COVID recovery. Oz and Paul delve into the profound intersections of nutrition, spirituality, and healing, exploring topics from sleep and trauma to the evolutionary advantages of altered consciousness. This conversation is a deep dive into holistic well-being and the integration of ancient wisdom with modern practices. Oz Garcia is recognized as an authority on healthy aging, age reversal, and fortifying the immune system. His client list includes A-List celebrities, Fortune 100 CEOs, and more recently, those dealing with Covid and Post-Covid health issues. Oz Gar

In this episode, Paul F. Austin is joined by entrepreneur Bob Parsons for a candid dive into his journey healing war trauma with psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-239-bob-parsons/ Bob Parsons, American entrepreneur and philanthropist, shares his journey from failing the fifth grade to becoming a billionaire. He discusses his challenges in school and how the Marine Corps helped him develop discipline and a sense of accomplishment. Parsons also opens up about his psychedelic experiences to heal war trauma and the profound impact they had on his life.  Bob shares about the ongoing psychedelic research he supports through his philanthropic foundation and concludes by discussing his new book, Fire in the Hole, which candidly explores his life and experiences.  This conversation touches on the transformative power of psychedelics to foster deep healing and catalyze significant life changes.  Highlights: Failing the fifth grade and challenges in e

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, renowned authors Gay & Katie Hendricks join host Paul F. Austin to share their insights on conscious loving and the impact of MDMA on relationships. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-238-drs-katie-and-gay-hendricks Katie and Gay discuss their own journey of meeting and committing to each other, as well as the principles they teach in their work. They reflect on their early use of MDMA to facilitate a deeper connection and self-discovery in relationships. The conversation also explores their work with executives, the importance of commitment and authenticity, and how to balance personal and professional relationships. Through unpacking their journey together, Katie and Gay reveal the power of turning concepts into experiential practices. They share their current and future projects, including Gay’s newest book “Your Big Leap Year.” Gay Hendricks and Kathlyn Hendricks have been pioneers in the fields of body

In this conversation, Paul F. Austin and Dr. Cat Meyer discuss the expansive nature of sex and the importance of redefining it. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-237-cat-meyer-psyd-lmft They explore the role of microdosing in enhancing vitality and connection, as well as the need for discernment and consent in relationships. Dr. Cat also provides a primer to play parties and offers advice on navigating new experiences safely and intentionally. Dr. Cat Meyer, PsyD, LMFT is a licensed psychotherapist specializing in sex, trauma, and ketamine-assisted therapy, author, yoga teacher, and international speaker dedicated to evolving the relationship we have surrounding sexuality and our bodies. She is the host of the podcast Sex Love Psychedelics and the founder of SexLoveYoga.com, an online platform for education and programs on relationships, sexuality, and embodiment. Highlights: Expanding the definition of sex Lessons from combining sex and psychedelics Mic

Dillan DiNardo, CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, joins Paul F. Austin in exploring the use of AI to design human states of consciousness. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-236-dillan-dinardo/ Dillan shares his background growing up in a religious community and his journey into psychedelics. He discusses the origin story of Mindstate Design Labs, and the role of language and AI in understanding altered states of consciousness. Dillan also talks about his experience suing the DEA and winning, advocating for the research of psychoactive substances. In this conversation, Dillan sheds light on unique approaches to psychedelic drug development. He envisions “expanding the psychedelic world” to design states of consciousness never before imagined—with therapeutic potential. Dillan DiNardo is the CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a next-generation psychedelic biotech company designing novel altered states of consciousness for mental health therapeutics. The company's m

Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the intersection of recovery and psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-235-vanessa-crites/ Vanessa shares her personal journey of recovery and how she became interested in psychedelic medicine. She explores the intersection of recovery and psychedelics, highlighting the spiritual principles of the 12-step program and the history of psychedelics in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Vanessa unpacks her educational program, Sobriety of the Soul, which provides resources and support for individuals in recovery interested in working with psychedelics. She discusses the unique challenges faced by people in recovery, and the need to normalize the conversation around psychedelics within that group. She also emphasizes the importance of discernment when it comes to the intentional and responsible application of psychedelics in recovery. Vanessa closes with resources and recommenda

Join Paul F. Austin for an interesting weaving of meditation, psychedelics, and conscious leadership, with renowned executive coach Eric Kaufmann. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-234-eric-kaufmann/ This intimate conversation was recorded live from Eric’s “meditation temple” built beside his house in Southern California. Eric shares his journey from being kicked out of college to finding meditation and his early adventures integrating psychedelics into his meditation practice. He reveals his insights from a year-long meditation retreat and emphasizes the growing need to bring humanity and spirituality to business. Eric lays out his two books and their roadmaps to conscious leadership. Finally, the two explore how psychedelics can be integrated into coaching to help leaders transcend “ego myopia,” which Eric sees as the biggest barrier to executive effectiveness and conscious leadership. Eric Kaufmann: Eric Kaufmann combines an unrelenting commitment to

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Dave Asprey, the “father of biohacking," to explore altered states—from psychedelics to neurofeedback. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-233-dave-asprey/ Dave shares his journey from discovering yak butter tea in the Himalayas to revolutionizing biohacking. He unravels the intersection of biohacking and psychedelics, highlighting the potential benefits and risks of substances like ayahuasca. Then, Dave unpacks his 40 Years of Zen program, its unique neurofeedback approach, and the nuanced differences between neurofeedback and psychedelics. Finally, Dave shares his vision for the evolution of humanity, emphasizing biohacking, consciousness, and reclaiming sovereignty. Dave Asprey: Dave Asprey is an award-winning entrepreneur and tech innovator known around the world as "The Father of Biohacking." He's a multi-New York Times and national bestselling author of Game Changers, Head Strong

Paul F. Austin welcomes Sunny Strasburg, LMFT, to discuss utilizing IFS & psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Theradelic Approach. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-232-sunny-strasburg-lmft/ Sunny discusses her multidisciplinary background and how she came to develop her unique therapeutic approach. She incorporates various modalities such as Internal Family Systems (IFS), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and the Gottman Method in her work. Sunny emphasizes the importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists and the need for ethical and well-trained practitioners in the field. She also shares her vision for the future and the challenges of scaling psychedelic therapy while maintaining integrity and respect for the mystery of the psychedelic experience. Sunny Strasburg discusses the Theradelic Approach, which combines Internal Family Systems therapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. She explains how workin

In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, host Paul F. Austin is joined by founder & CEO of Blueprint and the "world's most measured human." Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-231-bryan-johnson/ Delve into Bryan's journey from depression to a zest for life, and his extensive approach to longevity and health optimization. Brian shares his approach to longevity and health optimization. He reveals the philosophy behind Blueprint, a system of intelligence that uses scientific evidence and algorithms to manage health and wellness. He explains the concept behind Kernel, a brain mapping technology, and its relationship to psychedelic work. Additionally, Brian offers tips on the daily health practices, highlighting the importance of sleep. This enlightening conversation imagines the future of longevity, exploring the balance of intelligence and compassion—and provides actionable habits for improving health and lifespan. Bryan Johnson: Bryan Johnson is the world's

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin sits down with Phoenix White, founder of The Sacred Celestial. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-230-phoenix-white/ Recorded in-person at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation explores the art of curating transformational psychedelic ceremonies. From postpartum mental health to creating safe, transformative, and memorable psychedelic containers, Phoenix delves into her journey, including two brain surgeries and her book, "Redefining Strong." Join Phoenix as she unravels her own psychedelic insights on love, parenting, community, and self-actualization. Phoenix White: Phoenix White is revolutionizing the boundaries of mental health as a pioneering force in the realm of transformative healing, driven by an unapologetic dedication to fostering profound personal growth & self-exploration. She has mastered the art of merging spirituality, science, & radically curatin

In this illuminating episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Joe Moore, the CEO of Psychedelics Today. For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-229-joe-moore/ Recorded in-person at the 2023 reMind conference in Las Vegas, this conversation delves into the profound lessons and insights gained from navigating the unique challenges of the psychedelic space. Paul and Joe unpack the often-overlooked necessity of incorporating best business practices into psychedelic companies and explore the critical components of effective psychedelic training or coaching programs. Join Paul and Joe as they break down their respective programs—the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program and Vital Psychedelic Training—and compare the content and approach of each. Together, Paul and Joe share their hard-earned lessons from running psychedelic businesses, discuss the pros and cons of relying on investme

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Ryan Duey, Co-Founder of Plunge, to discuss the nexus of cold exposure & psychedelics. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-228-ryan-duey/ Ryan shares his extraordinary journey—from a life-altering motorcycle accident in Thailand to transformative encounters with Ayahuasca in the Amazon. He also discusses the benefits of cold plunging and its role in supporting mental and physical well-being. Ryan highlights the parallels between cold plunging and psychedelics, emphasizing the importance of surrender and breathwork in both practices. He then describes how to get the most out of cold plunging and sauna. The conversation covers Ryan’s life-altering experiences, his surprising growth and success, and his mission to “make resilience mainstream.” Ryan Duey: Ryan Duey was born and raised in Northern California. He attended Cal Poly University where he spent a semester abroad in Barcelona. The

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Halland Chen, a Double Board Certified physician at the forefront of integrative medicine. Recorded live at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, this insightful conversation is a dive into the realm of longevity and optimal living. Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-227-dr-halland-md/ Dr. Halland shares his transition from traditional to functional medicine, emphasizing the power of psychedelics in promoting mental health for longevity and a growth mindset. Explore the world of NAD+ supplementation and its role in the quest for a longer, healthier life. Delve into the use of psychedelics in pain management and uncover Dr. Halland's personalized medicine program, designed to optimize wellness and longevity through regenerative medicine and biohacking. Paul and Dr. Halland touch on the potential of artificial intelligence in shaping personalized medicine and consider the fascinating